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Re: good muslims



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Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon God of Arabia.
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The moon God? Allah is a monotheistic God.


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Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)
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The last time I looked, the US wasn't a theocracy. Therefore, it doesn't matter what religion is accepted by Allah, because Americans can be any (or none) religion they want.


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Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Koran).
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The Five Pillars of Islam are:
Faith or belief in the Oneness of God and the finality of the prophethood of Muhammad
Saying daily prayers
Concern for and almsgiving to the needy
Self-purification through fasting
The pilgrimage to Mecca for those who are able
I fail to see how the Five Pillars prevent one from being an American.


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Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
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Does this also mean that Jews can't be real Americans? Because the Passover Seder ends with "Next year in Jerusalem."


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Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
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Actually it doesn't, but what are mere facts when you're in full anti-Muslim rant?


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Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and Destruction of America, the great Satan.
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Mullahs are only found in the Shiite branch of Islam. The Sunnis have Imams, the Sufis have Shaykhs (sheikhs, which means "leaders") and the Druse have al-Ajawid, a term that means "The Good Ones." Not all mullahs teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America.


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Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).
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A Muslim is allowed to have up to four wives, there is no requirement to have all four.

"You will be eager for your husband and he will rule over you" -Genesis 3:16

"Wives be subservient to your husbands" -Ephesians 5:22


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Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
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Since the Constitution is not based on Biblical principles, this non sequitur is meaningless.


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Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
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I can think of several Muslim governments which are at least pro forma democracies. I can think of a whole lot of non-Muslim governments which are dictatorial or autocratic or both.


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Spiritually - no. Because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99 excellent names.
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Are we talking about the same Christian God (a) who is not officially part of the American political system and (b) in whose name numerous religious wars were fought? That Christian God?


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Therefore after much study and deliberation....perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both "good" Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish....it's still the truth.
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And while you're at it, watch out for the bogeyman, because he isn't a good American either.

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Posted in reply to: Re: good muslims by sab3r
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Re: good muslims sab3r 1/17/2010 7:44:38 PM