I think its s*@t! No matter how long...you never are able to pay your debt to society. Yeah...crime is bad and you get caught you do your time...but thats what it is...you learn from it and go on...get another chance...only not with a job. Hell...I had my felony dropped against me 3 years after the fact...but it was dropped...and I still...8 years later...I get s*@t for it. 2nd chances...yeah right!