I don't think so , say what you will. ADB is not that bad . Trough all the hard times and still were ticking. Times are tough and the prices are not there like they were for the good hard working lineman of the past. These boys we have to train now don't have the good money to get them and keep them hooked and loyal. Before we worked hard and played hard and the money made up for the rest. Hopefuly some day we will be able to bring this industry back to getting paid good to do a good job, instead of lowest bid lowest quality.