CABL Forum - Re: More info on a pos. union

the largest problem with cable today is people who say it can't be done, people who think it's ok that our brothers out there are killing themselves quite literally because the price of strand has fallen to less than half than it was just a couple years ago this making good smart dogs do some stupid things like try to up production just so they can afford to eat something with meat in it for dinner, the problem is that the quality of work suffers and even worse than that linedogs are getting killed because they are trying to move so fast that they forget the simple things in safety. I have had friends die in this work not because they did not know how to use a traveling ground but they were trying to get the job done so fast that they forgot, we all need to stand together to get the wages back up to a level where we can all do our best work and do it safely. you say it can't happen, so did the plumbers, carpenters, steel mill workers, truckers, factory workers, police departments, and so on and so on, none of these unions were started with open arms from everyone, but now all these people a very happy that the unions did start and very happy that the pesimiss did not rule. I for one like the idea of a vote, I also think a union should have rules that are decided on by the people who have to fallow them, not a bunch of people sitting in an air conditioned office who have never been in the field bleeding and sweating for hours on end and have never had to worry about paying bills because the one thing I can see that has not been going down is management salaries, I'm not by any means discounting managers, I happen to know several that I have nothing but respect for because they will fight for you and work beside you in the field when they have the chance and always when you need help. but back to the point here, a union will only work if we make it work just like all unions before this one had to do, the worse thing that could happen is we fail but at least we go down swinging.

> SO WHY WOULD THE PRIME HIRE A UNION WORKER??????????????????????????????
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> THATS RIGHT THE WOULD NOT.THE MSO WILL NOT MAKE IT A CLOSED SHOP, SO STOP THE B.S. IT AINT GOING TO WORK.

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I see that there should be a little more said
> > about my previous posting. What we are doing is
> > testing to see if we can band together in large enough
> > numbers to create a union. This union would be dif. from
> > other unions out there. It is going to belong
> > to contractors. It will not take rights away from
> > contractors, it's purpose will be to ensure the lifestyle
> > we all love. By setting corporate rates we will all be able
> > to enjoy a comfortable standard of living. No you
> > will not be able to make $100,000 a year installing
> > cable, but it will be better overall. The idea is to
> > get set piecework prices that are designed for a man
> > with his own tools and truck, who is expected to travel
> > to dif. locations for work, to go home with money still
> > in his pocket. we shouldn't be making $40,000 A YEAR
> > before motel rooms, gas, and equipment. A man who
> > doesn't work, still won't make any money, but a man
> > that does will at least know he's getting a fair amount.
> > It has other advantages. How about every good contractor
> > in an area boycotting a company that didn't pay it's
> > men. Something tells me that we'll quit getting
> > the short end of the stick. And how about union certification
> > and training centers. In time this can develop into
> > a great resource for contractors to use. I'm not saying
> > this is an overnight change. This would take allot
> > of time and hard work. I think that two years from
> > now we can be seeing some major improvements in our
> > industry. When 1 person say's I've been wronged friends
> > listen, when 200,000 people say it cities listen.
> > This is an attempt to make our life's better, but
> > it will take the support of thousands. What we are doing
> > now is building a base of supporters. We will need
> > everyone who believes this can help our life's to
> > spread the word. The sight I mentioned earlier is
> > a supporters forum of sorts. It's not a sign-up
> > sheet, but a statement of support. When there are
> > enough people saying this, then we will begin.
> > So tell your co-workers now, and we will get the
> > sight up and running very soon. It is near completion
> > now. When it is ready we will need all those who believe
> > in the cause to go to the sight, enter their information,
> > and spread the news to contractors everywhere. This is not
> > a ploy to ruin cable companies, but to help them, and ourselves
> > in the process. Remember they've given us a living for years,
> > with so much change, it's just too easy to forget the kittle guy.
> >
> > "long walks are taken with many small steps"

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