It's been so long for me I don't think I could function, I'm what you would call a light weight these days. In the 80's we had a suction cup with an alligator clip in the end of it that would sit on the lasher and would charge the grunt a 6 pack if he let the joint go out between poles.
Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winston Churchill
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