People can get medical care already. And you are talking about socialism. I am against socialism. I am not for someone paying for my health care. I will pay for my own. Show me where in the constitution of the US that it says we are to pay for other people's health care. It doesn't. And to pay for people that refuse to work or just want to spend their money on fancy cars and gold grills and clothes when they are suppose to have health care by the left's view isn't making me feel all warm and fuzzy. And here is a little tidbit for you. Now you might not care about giving your hard earned money to people who don't give a shit about you but I do. I would rather spend in on my family than people who just don't care. There are way too many. I will help when I think it is right not when you or some left extreme congress does. Fortunately there are people who really think what the American people think matters. Listening to the radio today a man said he called his senator 3 times and each time he did not get to talk to him but was told "the senator is doing what he thinks is best for you". Well he isn't there to do that. He is there to do what his constituents want not to run your life or tell you who you are going to spend your money on. And you don't have the right to judge who I want to spend my money on either. This can hurt people to the point not making it. So are you saying someone else is more important to a man than his own family?
A nonpartisan study is casting new doubt on President Obama's campaign pledge not to raise taxes on the middle class.
The Senate health care bill crucial to saving President Obama's signature domestic initiative will hit the wallets of a quarter of all Americans making less than $200,000 per year, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan Joint Tax Committee that assessed the way the bill would hit taxpayers directly through new taxes and fees and indirectly through taxes levied on health care providers and passed on to consumers.
The committee also determined that the bill would subsidized insurance premiums for 7 percent of taxpayers -- about 13 million people -- while some 73 million people would face higher costs from the new fees and taxes.
The potential tax increases in the bill could pose significant problems for the president as he makes his final push for health care reform because he promised to protect middle-class Americans from any tax hikes. Republicans already are pouncing on the committee's analysis.
"For every family that gets some benefit from this program, in other words, a premium subsidy, three families are going to get a tax increase and those three families obviously include the bulk of people you'd call middle class America," Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, told Fox News.
Democratic leaders are scrambling to gather enough votes to pass the bill in the House later this month so that changes House members want can be added in the Senate through reconciliation, an unusual tactic that allows a simple majority in the Senate to counteract a filibuster by the minority. The steps are part of Obama's final push to pass a comprehensive health care reform bill.
The analysis comes as the Congressional Budget Office updated its cost tally of the Senate bill, estimating that the last-minute changes made to the bill before it was passed Christmas Eve upped the price to $875 billion, from $871 billion. The CBO also estimates that the bill would reduce the federal deficit by $118 billion over a 10 year period, revised down from $132 billion.
But the projection could be undermined by future spending needed to administer parts of the bill, including up to $10 billion for the IRS, up to $20 billion for Health and Human Services and up to $50 billion for "grant programs and other provisions."
The new analysis highlighting the tax burdens of the Senate bill could undercut the president's push.
There's a long list of taxes in the Senate bill, including some paid directly by consumers. Other taxes are on providers who will simply pass it on to consumers.
"It has imposed a lot of taxes and fees on the drug companies, on the medical device manufacturers, on the insurance companies," said economist Doug Holtz Eakin. "All of that is going to show up in higher sticker prices for those that have health insurance."
And then there is the proposed tax on high-cost insurance plans, which was pushed back but will result in significantly higher tax payments by tens of millions of Americans who have generous insurance plans through their workplace.
Also, there would be a brand new Medicare tax on dividends and capital gains, which haven't been taxed before.
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