Hey oldline... He needs to call himself an installer just like the rest that started out like that in this trade. What the hell is this "low volt electrician ****'. Well, hell since all of us work on the plant with low voltage pulsing through it I guess we all qualify for that title. Geez, now I know what is happening to the trade. I got one of these so called Cox techs (3years experience) that wouldn't make a pimple on a real techs ass. And I am about tired of it. I am to the point where I am ready to tell the Mom and Pop that own the MSO that I work for it's either him or me.