That is just it the primes are the reason that the industry is the way it is. Because they will cut each others throat to make it look like they are making money. The thing about it is they are the only ones making the money now days. The prices are so low that you cant make any money running a route in cable or sat. installs anymore. But the primes are still making thier cut and you are doing all the work for nothing at the end of the week. Certs. or no certs. it doesnt matter.