Hey glenn ya noticed the change too !I left the bar for 8 years {no I wasn't in prison.....} lost my password and now am a newbieaccording too my profile I was called antigreenhorn back then soooo.... Iget back on the forum and aside from some guys i remeber like bigduck & superdave it's all whyning sniveling installers hell I even heard one kid call himself a dog/lineman ...ect times have changed but thedite is still entertaning and the real guys are still out there ! Bow Wow