Thanks Victor, I guess the only response I have gotten is from brandar and the kind of money he is making down South just doesn't seem to add up at all like you are saying. It seems like if the guys doing installs are making a sufficient income I'm glad for them but it doesn't seem anywhere near the $$$ needed to cover all the expenses, liability, and overall hassles. There are a lot of things anyone could do anywhere to average $400-$600 after expenses. Thanks for the thoughts.