hehehe yeppers your welcome on the bridger gates by the way but I think I have to agree with Motorola being junk we had them and they were always breaking down the one good thing about them is that they are clean and simple easy to replace parts and access.. Oh and duck we are 1 gig, max 5 actives deep per rx. and mostly .875 p3 for trunk and .625p3 for dist. and the Jerrold / Motorola were still breaking down we now use majority Flexnets and the navicor in our plant and well I'll just tell you our maint. guys really know where to hide.