no grunt im on the ground with my i860 thats one of my best foreman's in the bucket who also climbs when needed on his crew everyone climbs instead of most lineman these days who will stand on the ground and watch a guy in the bucket strap a pole or swap a lasher his lineman will hook the pole and strap everything up so he can move onto the next pole and swap the lasher i can put my crews against anyone in the business and smoke em all