thanks everyone for the info, its exactly what I needed, from now in I won't use anything but the plenum stuff.
as for the comment about the car salesman jibberish, I didn't want someone giving me some spiel about it. but you are right about the bashing part, too many people have that know-it-all holier than thou attitude in this industry, and thats one of the biggest problems we have going against us.
thanks for the info.
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