You got that right, lostlineman2. It takes one bad apple to spoil the bunch. My hub had an ex like that, tho not to that extreme. I, on the other hand, at least had some dignity during my divorce from my first husband and wouldn't stoop to those kind of tactics, especially when kids are involved. So I can be proud of myself for that. As for tat2dpair - that last comment re: the scales tipped in a woman's favor just by her lying down is total spite on his part. Many people are hurt in a divorce, but especially the kids. Instead of lamenting about his own credit rating and his failure in not getting his name removed from bank accounts at the time of the separation, etc. and his failure to cross the T,s and dot all the I's in his agreement, he should be focusing on how to make things semi normal for his kids if they are of an age where custody and visitation will be issues. The kids are never exempt - and that's the biggest tragedy of all. Credit can be rebuilt. Kids lives can't. Good luck tat2dpair - hope it all works out in the long run.