I was talking about Moran Communications. they were doing the installs in O-town when i was there. he was doing the installs when it was Telsat back in the mid 90's. I left there about 4 years ago. i never delt with the ones you mentioned. sounds like they're going thru a bunch of contractors now. sad. we had a kick ass group of people there about 10 years ago. but as soon as Al took over, he lost about 100 years of experience in about a month, just because he was clueless. and after 20 years in the business, I learned the most from adelphia in orlando. from tv to headend. crap load more then 11 years at tci in south bend.